[00:00:03] Speaker A: Obviously happening in real time. Breaking news into first take that, Robert Sala, the Jets head coach, has been fired.
I'll get you more details as they come in. But yes, Robert Salla again, the New.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: York jets head coach fired.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Three, two, one.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Here we go.
[00:00:21] Speaker C: Hello, jets fans. Hello, Rich. Hello, Mark. Welcome to an emergency edition of Just jets, the podcast.
Quite a bit of news happened today.
For some of you, it might be exciting. For some of you, it might be depressing.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: The Mets won.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: The Mets won.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: That's what we're talking about, right?
[00:00:38] Speaker C: The Mets won. The Knicks introduced their full team to the Madison Square Garden arena. Oh, that's right. And the jets fired Robert Sala.
We all are going to have some thoughts about it, but before we do that, why don't we just get straight into the the statement that Woody Johnson put out this morning. I informed Robert Salah that he will no longer serve as the head coach of the Jets. I thanked him for his hard work this past three and a half years and wished him and his family well moving forward. This was not an easy, easy decision, but we are not where we should be given our expectations, and I believe now is the best time for us to move in a different direction. That's debatable. Jeff Ulbricht will serve as our interim head coach for the remainder of the season. He is a tough coach who has the respect of the coaches and players on this team. I believe he, along with the coaches on the staff, can get the most out of our talented team and attain the goals we establish for the offseason this offseason.
Rich, what are you thinking, man? Tell me, what are your thoughts? What were your initial thoughts when you first heard the news this morning?
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I was shocked. Not in that, like, it's one of those things, you know, where you're, you understand everything that was leading up to it. You understand why it happened. For me, I personally agree with it. I just didn't think they were actually going to do it.
Woody Johnson, like, it's been posted everywhere by now, but has never fired a coach mid season in his 25 years owning this team. The jets, generally speaking, like, how many years have we been begging for them to fire John and Dick or Adam Gase? And maybe eventually they'll do it, but it's never when we want it. And yeah, I just didn't think it was going to happen five games in.
I do agree with it.
I just think we talked about this a little bit in the recent weeks on the podcast. We talked about this in our group chat today. But, you know, overall, the head coach of a football team is like the CEO and the team is his employees, and they really absorb and embody the emotions and just pretty much like, everything that he's putting out there into the world, like, they're a manifestation of that and the energy or lack of energy. Um, from Robert Sala this whole year, even going back to, like, training camp, he just seemed very different than he had been. Almost this kind of, like, front running, dead man walking, like, loser mentality.
Uh, that was pretty odd to see. And you saw it on the sidelines, you saw it in his pre and post game pressers. Just never said the right thing, never seemed really happy to be there.
And I felt like the team was starting to play with a very similar energy to what he was giving off. And when that happens, you just have to go, you can't be the head coach anymore. I am certain he will be a great defensive coordinator again, probably with the 49 ers next year.
But for him, at this stage in his career, it's just like not happening with the performance on the field, obviously, over these four years. And just like, when you start mailing it in or whatever he was doing with how he was acting, it's. It is time.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, that. Your CEO description is very apt, and I think that is the role of the head coach. We might disagree on some of the. The particulars and the timing, but I think overall, it was his time. It was his time to be fired. Mark, what were your initial thoughts when you first heard about it this morning?
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, definitely his time. They come off back to back. Disappointing losses. The team didn't look prepared to play at all. You know, 2021, when he first got there, four and 13, they were just building out their team. 2022, seven and ten. Lafleur is the scapegoat.
2023, same thing. The carousel, the quarterbacks as a scapegoat. At some point that the responsibility has to fall on the head coach. Two and three this season, for a team that was supposed to have high expectations, just is not going to cut it. He had to go, and I think now is the right time. A lot of people are saying, oh, they're in a battle for first place on Monday night. Why don't you wait to see what happens until then? But I don't think they can afford to. I think you make the change now. You go into that game with a new, fresh voice, and then you go, you win that game and you get first place and you see what happens. From there.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's a really good point, Mark.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that. That's a great point. I still want to ask both of you a question. Do you guys think that this move right now makes this team better immediately?
[00:05:45] Speaker B: I do.
[00:05:46] Speaker C: Why?
[00:05:48] Speaker A: I think it.
[00:05:50] Speaker C: Mark. What? Mark? Go ahead, Rich.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: Go ahead, Rich.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: I think it. Yeah, it just goes back to what we were saying about, you know, the. The, you know, Mark brought up them being unprepared to play. That has literally been a Robert Salas staple as a head coach.
And you can say, like, oh, Jeff Ulbricht is, you know, he's a part of the staff, but, you know, like, these coordinators, while they're a part of this, it's like the same arguments you have when you're talking about, like, what people are doing as the vice president. Like, they don't set the tone, they don't get to have the final say on anything. And it's not fair to think that, like, Jeff Ulbricht's not going to do things differently than Robert Salad. I think that he is. I think he's going to have a different energy. If anybody's seen the clips of him as the coach from the senior bowl from this past year, you could see it's just like, very, very different, just from that clip alone to what Sal was doing. And we saw it from quotes from reporters. We saw it in Woody Johnson's statements with the press today that players still respect Jeff Ulbricht quite a bit. And to me, it was very obvious that when those statements were being made, it was also a damnation of Robert Sala and he did not have the respect of those players. So I think, you know, I. Is this going to magically cure all of these things? Of course it's not. I think that's kind of ludicrous. But is the team going to come out of with a different energy? Are they going to look more prepared? I think that's all on the table.
If. If Ulbricht really has the autonomy to make a decision about play calling, which it seemed like Woody Johnson was saying he potentially does when it comes to Nathaniel Hackett and the offensive side of the ball, I think that makes an impact. Again, not a huge impact because they don't have any great offensive coaches, but I. A change is a change. I think Joe Caperoso made a great analogy on Twitter today that was saying, yeah, if you have one of these other coaches versus Nathaniel Hackett calling the plays, it's like picking between a two week old egg salad sandwich versus eating a shoe at least one of them is food.
So, yeah, I think it's going to make those impacts in those ways. It's not going to marketably, you know, just, like, fix everything about the team and it's not gonna make Alan Lazard stop dropping the balls. But I think, you know, when coaching has been such a major problem and energy and preparation is digging them in holes that they haven't been able to get out of, I think those are areas that they can fix. And then if they do make roster improvements along the way, one of which we thought was going to happen today, but as of right now has nothing, they could still get to a place where they resemble the team that we were expecting.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: Mark, before I get your answer.
[00:08:47] Speaker D: In.
[00:08:48] Speaker C: The short term, yes, it'll give us a boost. It'll give us a boost. I don't think it makes us better by any stretch of the imagination for the simple fact that our biggest asset has been our defense. Our defense is not perfect. Our defense still cannot tackle.
We are not going to get better by taking away the defensive coordinator and saying, hey, now you have to do all these other things.
But, Mark, with that in mind, do you think that the defense and the attention that Ulbricht now has to put on the rest of the responsibilities of a head coach will impact the effort and the play of the defense in any way?
[00:09:33] Speaker B: I don't think so. I think the one thing you can say about this defensive staff is they're very well prepared and they're very knowledgeable. They've built up so many undrafted, you know, free agent players.
It's not only Robert Salah. He, he's not the mastermind behind this whole thing. He works in conjunction with the entire defensive staff.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: Right.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: I think Ulbricht knows the system. I think the rest of the coaching staff knows the system. I think they'll put a good plan in place. I think basically what just happened is Salah's message just got old.
[00:10:08] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: I think what happened was, you know, they get that horrible game against the Broncos, undisciplined, sloppy. Salah comes out, says, you know, we're not in the business of embarrassing players. They don't need the discipline like that. And then they, they come out and they lose the next week to the Vikings.
[00:10:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: And, you know, you heard 17 nothing after falling behind 17 nothing. You heard Quincy Williams in the Sny postgame. You know, they, they need to have that accountability, and for some reason, you don't know what happens behind closed doors, but at least publicly, it didn't seem like Salah was holding anyone accountable. He just kept saying, oh, it's early. You know, I'll say, I think I wrote this in the newsletter a couple of weeks ago. Yogi Berra said, it's getting late. Early.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: So, I mean, he can say it's still early all he wants, but there's only 17 games in a season. We're five weeks in. You're two and three. And we talked about something's got a gift.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: We. And we've talked about coaching every week. We've talked about coaching every single week. And the mistakes that keep occurring are.
I mentioned Kevin O'Connell last episode because I described his philosophy permeating through every single coaching coach on his staff, being making the complex simple. They are in the business of not watering down their offense, not watering down their defense. Brian Flores, you know, comes up with these exotic blitzes week in and week out. But their coaching philosophy as a whole is to simplify and give responsibility to the players to just make basic decisions and basic reads in order to execute a grandiose plan. Right. It never appeared that Robert Salah had an overarching coaching philosophy. As a matter of fact, he liked to take the. To continue with the CEO analogy that you brought up rich at the top. He continued to delegate, and he delegated too much to his coaches. Delegated. It almost seems like he wasn't involved in the offense at all whatsoever. He said, rogers, hack it. This is you. I am going to go with Ulbricht, and we're going to take care of the defense. And that is not the way you run a football team. That is not. You cannot completely this season. He said, oh, I'm gonna start sitting in on some of the QB meetings. That's. That's not something you just sit in. You don't just dip your toe into a complete other wing of your house and not knowing everything, you know, I'm saying, like, you can't just avoid one entire side of your house and then wonder why there's issues in the entire house. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just nothing. Um, I agree with everything you guys are saying. I agree with, um, the messaging standpoint. I agree with, um, that his time needed to go. Um, what I don't agree with is the time. I do not think that this is the right time. Only because you're making the team worse in the sh. In the short run and in the long run. Ulbricht has been identified Ulbricht has been identified by multiple people across the NFL as a future star, as a future head coach. And what you are doing now by putting him in place is you are thrusting him into the fire. Um, you are number one. You are potentially having the, the players not respect him and treat him accordingly because they don't even know if he's going to be here next year. He's a lame duck, essentially having the interim tag. You don't know if he. They don't know if he's going to be their head coach next year. You don't know if he's going to get the maximum effort and he's going to immediately solve all of the issues. Let's not forget, tackling is still an issue with his defense, and that's an ulbricht defense.
Penalties are still an issue. They're not a solid issue. They are an individual offense and defense. They're a collective issue. Yes, that accountability kind of allowed for these lax behaviors. But, like, the entire coaching staff is not gone. You're attempting to fix the plane while the plane is in the air, and you are giving Ulbricht more responsibilities than he's ever had.
Is it like, we have a very, very small window, and I understand the timing of it. You, you potentially. We don't know what's gonna happen with the Devontae Adams situation. You're potentially giving more ammunition to the raid, to, to the raiders, to potentially hold him hostage and trying to get more out of it. So, like, if this was more of a, why not do it either Sunday after the game and try to get your ducks in a row going into the week? Why wait till Tuesday when you're playing the bills on Monday? Like, the timing of it just doesn't seem like, write to me, and I don't think it makes the team. It makes us look like a mess. It makes us look like a. Like a dysfunctional mess that we. Rich, rich had the line. I was like, oh, my God, we're a mess again. He was like, when did we stop being a mess? Like, I was like, God damn it, he's right. Like, we've never stopped being this mess. And I think when we look at the Knicks and how they built their, their organization, granted, it's apples to oranges. Basketball and football are not the same, but, like, they were patient. They built it out. And we try to take the shortcut by bringing in a 40 year old quarterback and saying, all right, now. Now we can kind of, you know what I'm saying? Instead of, I don't know, man. I'm just frustrated. This whole thing is just the timing of it just doesn't seem right to me. Just if you wanted to do. There are other things that you could have done in the background to pull other levers. You could have force the hack, the Hackett play calling responsibilities onto somebody else. And as a matter of fact, some of the reporting said that Robert Sala was in the process of taking away those play calling responsibilities from Hackett and giving them to the passing coordinator downing when he was fired. Do we think that. Do we believe Woody Johnson when he says that he didn't speak to Aaron Rodgers about this decision? Rich, what do you think?
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Um, I'm sure it came up.
I do think that Woody Johnson just decided to do this. Like, I know he talked to Rogers. I'm sure it came up. He did talk to Joe Douglas, but he was very emphatic in almost like, a weird way on the. I listened to his whole conversation with the. With the press.
Yeah, it was almost kind of weird how much he was saying, like, me, I made. It was almost like, kind of like slapping his nuts on the table, being.
[00:16:54] Speaker C: Like, he wanted to take credit for the scalp he wanted.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Credit for the scout and, yeah, I don't know that you'd do that if, like, it actually wasn't you. Like, I kind of, like, buy that he was behind it, even if there were other people who were, like, aligned with it.
[00:17:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: Um, you know, I. I don't think that the Hackett thing, whether it was true or not, was what got him fired, because Woody Johnson essentially, straight up said, like, jeff Ulbricht also has the power to, like, make this, like, basically.
[00:17:25] Speaker C: Put the ball in his court. He was like, oh, yeah, he's going to make this decision, like, right.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: So to me, it's like, if that's really the case and Woody Johnson was taking shots at the offense today and saying, like, we can't keep doing the same thing over and over again because it's not changing. Then I don't think the Nathaniel Hackett thing was why he got fired. And I think some people are theorizing that. One thing I do want to say, though, Ross, some of the things you were saying about the timing, one, whether they fired him on Sunday or Tuesday, I'm not really going to quibble over a day and a half.
It's really not going to matter in the grand scheme of things. And the other thing is, I don't think it makes them worse. I think you can look back and look, the interim manager or head coach in football is a lot different than, like, the interim manager spark in baseball, where, like baseball, you got like a 30, 40% chance that it actually changes things. You know, those, like 2007 Rockies are the best example of that, probably. Or even when they fired Joe Girardi for Rob Thompson with the Phillies.
But in football, very, very rare. I mean, one, guys usually just don't get fired in the middle of the season.
[00:18:39] Speaker C: No, they don't. Right. For a reason. Because, I mean, it takes an entire off season to, to develop a game plan to, to come up with the language and the playbooks and the organization. There's so many different levels of organization that go into being a head coach. Right? There's everything, every decision that now falls on all bricks lap. But what I will make his head.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Spin, what I will point to is Antonio Pierce a year ago with the Raiders, with a much worse roster, right. Those players, similarly to Ulbricht, like, really liked him, really respected him, and you could see they played very differently and a lot harder down the stretch. And that team was very much lacking in talent that this team does not have.
I know that, like, you know, I will say, I will say the Raiders is this, like, shining example, but, like, it's not impossible. And there are similarities there.
[00:19:39] Speaker C: There are similarities, but I will say before, I'm sorry to cut you off, but there are similarities there. But the difference there is that that is one out of dozens of cases. The interim label seldom sticks. And the reason why Antonio Pierce got the job was because Max Crosby and a couple of the players went to bat for him and went to ownership and say, hey, if he's not our head coach, you're going to have problems with us. There's going to be like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, do you guys think that there are those type of players who are going to essentially fall on the sword if, you know, like, if Ulbricht doesn't become the head coach?
[00:20:16] Speaker A: I don't know that they got to that point.
There hasn't been really any indication, like, maybe some of these players will come out and say some things and that'll be new information. But going off of just what we're going off of right now, I think the other thing is most of the time, other than, like, Urban Meyer, and that was a absolute catastrophe situation. When guys are getting fired mid season in the NFL, it's pretty like late in the game.
[00:20:43] Speaker C: Nathaniel Hackett.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Right. Those are those seasons, and those stories are already kind of written.
The jets did, and this is why I think the timing does make sense, is that the jets did it early enough where they can easily turn things around. Like, they're two and three, they're five games in, there's twelve games to go.
Their story is not written at this point. They have plenty of time to turn it around. Whether they win or lose on Monday, they still have plenty of time to turn things around. And I think that's why the timing does make sense. I think I wrote about it in the newsletter, reacting to the news earlier on Tuesday, that whether or not it works, Woody Johnson owed the roster and the fan base to try something different rather than veering into the iceberg. And to those people who have been saying in the media, like the Connor Hughes's and other people as well, like, I don't know what this does, I don't know what this changes. Then do you just sit back and waste an entire fucking year with a 40 year old quarterback and be like, well, I don't think it was going to be different, so we just did the same thing for the next 13 weeks.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Yeah. That's definitely part of the populace. Yeah.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that would be far more egregious than this. I would rather at least make the attempt, try something. And if it doesn't work, like, are you in a worse situation than you were going to be if it was Salah? Because they were not going to turn around with Robert Salad and everybody was going to get fired at the end of the year anyways.
[00:22:22] Speaker C: Yeah, that is a great point.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: I think the other big thing is the state of the AFC east right now, which is also why it's a great time to do this.
Obviously, we mentioned, like Monday night, they're playing for first place. The Patriots are not a good team. The Dolphins don't have their quarterback anymore. They're not a good team right now. Who knows what's going on with Josh Allen's health?
He didn't look great last week. I mean, make this change now. See if you can infuse some, some energy. This, this division is yours for the taking if, if you want it. So I think right now you send the message, hey, we're going all in. We're going to try to make this work. We're changing it up. We want to take this in. You've never had a better chance at winning the division than you do right now.
[00:23:08] Speaker C: Yeah, no, that's a, that's a fabulous point that I haven't even considered. Definitely the state of the division. It is, is. And I love the, the iceberg analogy. If you're in the Titanic, at least you want to attempt to try to do something, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're seeing the iceberg straight ahead, I love that analogy because it does kind of, kind of speak to the, to the, to the state of the team. Our offense is broken, and short of getting in, you know, trading for Lamar Jackson, I don't think we're improving our offense. Anyway. They did ask Goldbreak today about the offensive play calling, and this is what he had.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: Say, jeff, there, Woody was talking to us a little bit ago about changes, potentially just changes in general for the offense.
I was wondering if you could talk at all about your plans for the play caller, because you have Todd there who's done it. You have Nate who has been doing it. Do you know who's going to call plays for you?
[00:23:59] Speaker D: I've got tremendous respect for this offensive staff. I do every single guy on it. In the next couple days, in my opinion, these guys are going to be here on Monday night football for us, and they're going to do an amazing job saying that in the next. I mean, this has been 4 hours fresh for me to take this role on.
Everything will be assessed, the process, the responsibilities, et cetera, but I do not foresee any changes in the staff.
[00:24:28] Speaker C: Listen, he may be 4 hours into the job, but he fucking handled that press conference like a goddamn pro. Absolutely. He did not make me want to punch him in the face. The way, the way Salah press conference, the way Salah press conferences always made me want to fight him. And I've said it time and time again, toxic positivity was not, was not getting us anywhere. Um, and I think you both have kind of convinced me, um, that maybe this is you. You guys are right. Like, there, there is, there is, this is the time to do it. Um, I, coming into, even all day as I was, it was marinating in my brain. I was like, no, this is just conceding the fact that this season is lost and, and it might still be, the season might still be lost, and we might still have to fire everyone at the end of the year. But you're right, standing still only kills spirits, and you lose team players, and standing still was not an option either. And I think this is the lesser of two evils. This is the lesser of two, the.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: Opposite of a concession.
[00:25:29] Speaker C: I. Yeah, I mean, listen, like I said, ulbricht has been identified as a potential head coaching head coach star. As some of the articles that I've read today about him, I read a wonderful article by Zach Rosenblatt. Of the Athletic about him that he wrote last December. Basically, he. He is solid, 2.0. He is an improvement, hopefully, in terms of demeanor, in terms of the way he handles players, in terms of how he forges relationships. The problem with Salah was that, you know what I'm saying? You can't just compliment. You can't just say you're doing a good job. You have to hold people accountable. And hopefully, Ulbricht learns from the lessons of Salah, who he has a very close relationship with. And I think it sends a message to the entire organization, like, look, heads are going to roll. Like, you guys are not going to be in the NFL. You're going to lose your jobs, because the NFL is a, you know, results oriented business. And, yes, had I preferred this decision happened in the offseason, and if you did feel that strongly enough about Ulbricht, where you denied the Broncos the opportunity to interview him for. For your court, for his coordinator position, they clearly value Ulbricht. And I feel like that is also part of the. That went into the decision making. Like, oh, look, we have this very talented coach.
Fuck it. Let's give it a try. Fuck it. It's difficult. And being a first time head coach in the middle of a season is probably the hardest thing you'll ever do in sports, but fuck it. We think he's talented enough and shit. What. What do we got to lose?
[00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's part of the calculus, too, is that there's a little bit of hope in that.
[00:27:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Versus if we found out today that Robert Sala had been fired and Nathaniel Hackett was promoted to the hit, like, that is such a different podcast at that point.
And, like, that does play a factor in. It's like, it's the one coach on the jets that I would have wanted.
[00:27:35] Speaker C: Right.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: To get.
[00:27:36] Speaker C: Yeah. He's been identified as a rising star 100%.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: I think also, the one thing about having Hackett here is, you know, like, obviously, he was not a great head coach, but I.
Obviously, I think Ulbricht can lean on him at least a little bit, if not for what not to do.
[00:27:58] Speaker C: Right. No, that's a great point.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: You know, he has mean solidariance.
[00:28:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: He has had coaching experience.
So I think he's definitely a voice that Ulbricht can consider when. When trying to navigate through this new minefield that he's got going on.
[00:28:16] Speaker C: Oh, man. I mean, it's. Listen, we don't want the team to fail. We don't want the team to. To just fold up, close up shop. And I think you guys both have convinced me again. I was. I'm.
I am more of the mind of, like, be coordinated, be calculated, be calculated in your decision making. You know, have a plan in place. And this is, this morning screamed to me of, ah, the house is on fire. Get a bucket. You know what I'm saying? And it didn't appear to be part of a plan. But you're right. Like, when you lose a team, when you lose a locker room, which, again, Salah, and did not have 100%, you know, at fault here, a lot of it is the culpability isn't Aaron Rogers. A lot of the culpability is on the players themselves, but you can't fire an entire team. And that's why coaches get fired every day. They did ask Ulbricht about his relationship with Aaron Rodgers, and again, he handled this. This press conference like a. Probably take a listen.
[00:29:16] Speaker A: What's your relationship like with Aaron Rodgers?
[00:29:20] Speaker D: I have a good relationship with Aaron. He is.
He's one of those guys that has, you know, he's just unbelievable experience, and he's seen this game at. At the highest level for a. A long time. So he's a guy with a lot of ideas and really positive feedback about a lot of different things, whether it be meetings, practice, game planning, scheduling, all of it, you know. So he will be a vital resource for me in that way, for sure.
[00:29:48] Speaker C: He said all the right things. He said all the right things, and he handled it like a pro. And you can see the. Like, he's a competent individual. And already the tone has changed. Like, I watched that and I was like, all right, maybe it's not that bad.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Feel like you're not watching a sad sack who doesn't give a shit.
[00:30:07] Speaker C: Ah, dude, it's just. It was. It's been frustrating. It's been frustrating. Um, but anyway, let's, uh, let's wrap it up there. Any final thoughts before we. We close up shop, turn off the lights, and go cry into our pillows?
[00:30:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Last thing for me, and just to close the loop on the. On this point, we talked on Sunday after they lost to the Vikings, that one of my biggest fears was that this season was going to wither and die on the vine because they didn't try something different. Because in the history of this franchise, at least in my life, this is not the course that they would take. And there are times where you wonder, would things have been different if you actually had the. The guts to do something that might be deemed as controversial?
It doesn't mean it's going to work. It doesn't mean it's going to fix everything. But at two and three, there's so much season left. We were asking ourselves, is it over already? And, you know, I like that they're trying to salvage it any way that they can. There's not that many options to do it. This was the one thing that they could do and I at least respect that decision. It doesn't look organized, doesn't look clean, but like this, it's what they had to do because the season, the season was probably going nowhere if they didn't do it.
[00:31:42] Speaker C: And they definitely, again, listen, Woody probably saw the way it happened with case, the way it happened in other coach, with other coaches, and he was probably lamenting the fact that he probably didn't pull, pull the trigger earlier and maybe that kind of went into the calculus. Mark, what about you, man? Any last thoughts before we wrap up?
[00:31:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is what happens if Salah is still here and the season spirals. You very unsure about what Aaron Rodgers is even going to do next year. This is your best chance to win this season and you had to make a move. I think they made the right move. We'll obviously see what happens. We don't know what the play calling is going to look like on Monday. The Jets historically do well against the Bills and Josh Allen.
So, you know, get that game in three and three, first place in the division, and then just keep rolling and see what happens.
[00:32:37] Speaker C: Yeah, no, that's a great point. And like I said, while we all have a different opinion with, well, different opinion with regards to potentially the timing and the future of the organization, it's unanimous that we all agree that Robert Sala should not have been the head coach of this football team and that his approach and his methodology and his overall vibe and demeanor were just bringing everybody down. And we're hopeful. We're hopeful that this, this, this decision, this monumental decision has positive ramifications on the franchise has positive ramifications on the rest of the season and that we, it gives us a fighting chance it gives us a fighting chance for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
Rich, you said something that is bouncing around in my brain right now, just having the bravery, having the bravery to try something different. Part of my mentality this morning was like, well, it's never happened before. You've never fired a season, a coach mid season and had a successful playoff run deep in, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's never happened in the history of the NFL. And you're right. They had the balls to try something different. And who's to say that, you know, this team and this organization is not the one to kind of, you know, set the precedent for the future? Well, with that, thank you very much for listening. We're all going to go cry and refresh x or twitter until we get a new Adams news. But with that, we thank you for listening. And let's go Jets, I guess.
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